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Glossary of Terms
Bibliography / resources
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Professional Organizations:
The following organizations have members who subscribe to
professionalism in design and installations for radiant based
HVAC systems:
ASHRAE
ACCA
AIA
ASID
OHBA
COHA
OAA
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IAPMO
(RPA)
CIPH
HRAI
TECA
REHVA
CIBSE
MCAC
MCAA
How to reduce the risk of dealing with
unqualified individuals who could potentially destroy the value of
your property.
First and foremost deal only with qualified individuals - this
applies to all types of HVAC systems.
The common denominators for qualified individuals are:
They have a formal education and professional
designation related to their area of expertise.
They hold membership with one or more of the above
institutes and associations.
They are listed as a certified resource at the
associations and institutes.
Design build contractors who have been factory trained will
be listed with the equipment manufacturers and wholesalers.
They will all be in good standing with their suppliers,
bankers and insurance providers.
Anyone worthy of a professional title can provide you names to
contact to verify all of the above information - when several
sources can verify the quality of the individual you will have
eliminated 80% of the bad apples.
Next is to contact their references...past and present
clients.
...and this is important...make sure you get to deal with the
person you choose - don't let a bait and switch happen without
your approval.
Finally go with your gut feeling only after you have
done your homework...you'll have to invest thousands of
dollars and you want to be able to work with the person taking
your cash!
If
in doubt you can post your questions and concerns online at our
linked in discussion group.
Is your system being designed and installed
according to codes, standards and guidelines?

CSA B214 Installation Code for Hydronic Heating Systems

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As we have noted
throughout the site, radiant system continue to be
treated as popular science experiments even though these
systems have been used for hundreds of years and
researched to a level of engineering one would find
anywhere in a professionally designed HVAC system.
We
don't understand this phenomena of relatively educated people continuing to
want to do silly things like throwing good money after
experimental ideas.
Radiant when designed by professionals and
installed by professionals is an elegant and efficient
way of conditioning people. There is no need to "try" or
"reinvent the wheel" just
"do" what is proven
in
thermodynamics and engineering principles. Also it pays
to work with the "Blue Chip" firms who provide
leadership in codes and standards develop as well as
application research. These top tier companies have
brand name recognition which will serve you well when
you go to sell your home.
Design and installation methods
can be found in
ASHRAE Handbooks, industry
publications (see list of Professional Organizations in
side bar) and design guides and software published by
"blue chip" manufacturers.
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The Bad
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A very bad radiant
system...even an early grade school
student understands that if you put a pot of water to
boil directly on the element it will heat much better
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The high temperatures that
this system would typically have to run at would completely
destroy
the efficiency of the heating plant and the
expansion and contraction rate due to changes in
temperature would cause stress in fasteners leading to
noise and fastener failure. It matters not anyways since
the system failed to perform from the start and needs
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This is the same job as above and we want
to draw your
attention to the tube placement, lack of insulation and beginnings of an
accumulation of dust on the pipes and reflective foil.
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The use of
reflective foil (above) in
sub-floor systems is not without controversy. Radiation
in an enclosure is difficult to model and the
performance is subject to decay due to the potential
fouling and
accumulation of dust and debris. In principle it is nice to
believe foil reflects energy from the pipe back towards
the floor and improves efficiency but in practice the only practical way to
efficiently and effectively condition a sub floor type
system is with conduction using aluminum heat transfer
plates along the entire tube length above or below the
sub-floor.
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The Ugly |
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We have no idea how one could call
themselves an experienced professional and leave this
type of mess in someone's home. Not only is it ugly but
it failed to perform due to bad design and inadequate or
missing components.
Remember this wisdom - whatever you have in your boiler
room you will eventually have to sell with the property.
Anything less in professionalism such as the examples
above will partially
destroy the value of your property.
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The Good |
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The above represent
acceptable options in sub-floor systems using aluminum
(or graphite) heat transfer plates. Not shown is the
required below sub-floor insulation. |
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The above represent
acceptable options in poured floor systems. Shown in top
photo's is the
required sub-floor insulation. |
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Photo credit: Peter Kinsey |

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Photo credit: Uponor |

Photo credit: Uponor |
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Photo credit: Uponor |

Photo credit: Uponor |
The above
represent acceptable boiler room and control panels for
residential (top) and commercial projects (bottom)
Related reading:
Do I need an
engineer? A Guide to HVAC/Indoor Climate Design Services
Where
will your indoor climate system score?
How to "ball park" your budget for
indoor climate control.
Indoor environments: Self assessment
Built to code: What does it mean for consumer thermal comfort?
The Total Comfort System -
The "Un-minimum" System
Thermal
Comfort: A 40 grit perspective for consumers
Thermal
Comfort: A Condition of Mind
Do-It-Yourself HVAC - Should you do it?
The Cost of HVAC Systems - Are You Paying Too Much for Downgrades?
Radiant Installations - The Good, Bad
and Ugly
Thermal Comfort Surveys - Post Occupancy, Part I
Thermal Comfort Surveys - Post Occupancy, Part II
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