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Clearing the air on radiant - (see our
comprehensive
list of research citations on radiant cooling and heating.) |
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eHow |
ok...there were so
many unbelievable statements at this eHow
article it's easier for us to advise readers to
avoid any article that mentions 'polyurethane'
pipes and 'floor furnaces' in the same breath.
Pipes aren't made of polyurethane nor are floor
furnaces even close to underfloor radiant
systems. This is just bad information all
around. Keep reading below for other amusing
statements and claims.. |
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"On average, radiant
floor heating systems deliver only about a
maximum of 60% of their heat by radiation; the
rest is mostly by convection." |
If 60% is the
majority - it is the "mostly" i.e. the
heat transfer is mostly by radiation. We find
the syntax in the
internet statement interesting...see this link
for
heat transfer coefficients (HTC)...this difference
between HTC values is based on the differences in
convection and the amount of convection is a
function of the enclosure performance, room
geometry and surface temperatures and
orientation of the panel (wall, floor, or
ceiling). In high
performance building there is less convection
and more radiation which is why surface
emissivity's can play a more important role when
buildings don't leak. By definition, if the
radiant component is 50% or more it is called a
radiant system. In the absence of forced drafts
(i.e., in space fans), radiant heating ceiling
systems and radiant cooling floor systems are
virtually free of any convective transfer due to
reduced influence on air density, ergo they
transfer almost all of their heat by radiation.
Radiant floor heating and radiant ceiling
cooling exchange between 50% and 60% of the
energy via radiation. |
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"The floor material
then radiates off the heat into the cooler
surrounding air" or "The air is warmed because
of the radiating heat" or
"Radiant heat
is effective because it heats the air rather
than blowing warm air throughout your home." or
"heated wires in the floor that warm the air in
the room above." or "With a radiant floor
heating system,
heat is even and warms the part of the room most
used by people." or "it heats a room from the
bottom up". or "It is efficient because it
does not feature a fan blowing heat around the
room; it heats from the bottom up, which warms
the feet and body first." or "The real
advantage of in-floor heating is it radiates
heat back to your body." or "The air around
you will be slightly cooler, but your own body
will absorb the warmth generated through the
heating system in the floor." or "they
warm up the bottom half of the body making it
feeling more comfortable and reducing the
feelings of lethargy." |
For all practical
discussions outside of academia, the radiant energy
exchange within a building does not directly heat the
'air'
molecules - it heats the surfaces in the room which in turn are in contact
with the air...ergo the air becomes warm
only because of the contact with warm surfaces
vis-à-vis the conduction and convection process.
The aggressiveness of the natural convection (i.e. air
flow across a surface) is a
function of the building enclosure, radiant panel orientation (wall, ceiling, or
floor) and whether it is heated (emittance) or
cooled (absorptance). For further discussions on
this topic visit our page on
heat transfer coefficients. Furthermore, many people think radiant
floor heating heats the body but (sans
discussion on conduction heating the feet) this is not
exactly the
case, radiant heating systems provide comfort by
warming the interior surfaces which reduces the
temperature difference between your skin and the
interior surfaces which in turn reduces the loss
of body heat via radiation. You see its not
necessarily the
radiant heat you are absorbing - its the heat
you are not losing which results in perceptions
of comfort. Some people compare the warmth from
the sun to the warmth of a heated floor but the
sun and floor operate a two completely different
electromagnetic wave lengths. Both provide
thermal comfort but in different ways.
Radiant cooling works in the opposite method
by encouraging the loss of body heat via
radiation...its the loss of heat from your body
via radiation which provides the cool sensation.
Learn more from our pages on
thermal comfort. |
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".hot water is
circulated in the pipes and warms up the slab
and slowly radiates heat into the space." |
First, it isn't hot
water - in fact in a high performance home
(< 10 Btu/hr/sf) with conductive floors
(tile, slate, concrete) and tight tube spacing
(6" to 8" o.c.), the average water temperature
is a nominal 85 deg F or very close to
skin temperature
and cooler than your
core
body temperature - tepid to warm - definitely
not hot. The cooler the fluid in
heating and warmer in cooling the better the
plant efficiency through first and second laws
of thermodynamics (also see our comments further
down on
exergy yes "e-x-e-r-g-y" it is not a
spelling mistake.).
Second, the speed at which
the slab warms up is a function of the
heating load, building mass, tube spacing, back
losses to grade and flooring conductivity. With
proper passive and active controls there is
little significant difference between what one
finds in a forced air heated home. Third,
radiant energy travels at the speed of light -
there is nothing slow about it.
Discussion: when it
comes to "slow" to heat up...for some
bizarre reason people must image letting their home
get down to design conditions say -20 deg F.
before turning it on and then see them selves standing there with a
time clock to count how many hours it takes to
heat the room up to comfort conditions. This is
so far from reality it's almost silly. With one
run of the mill strategy, as soon as the
outdoor temperature drops below some preselected ambient temperature
- say 65 deg F - an outdoor reset control wakes up
from it's sleep mode and starts to monitor the
interior and exterior conditions...if it continues to get cold
outside and it shows up inside as drop in
temperature - then it starts to manage the system
fluid and heater by turning
it on and ramping up the fluid temperature. So
with a well designed system with proper controls you can maintain comfort
all the way from 65 deg F down to -20 deg F
without having to "wait" for the system...that
is unless of course you enjoy starting your
system at -20 deg F. |
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"radiant heating is
expensive" or "radiant cost a lot more than
other systems" or "the most comfortable system
is radiant but it's a lot more money". |
Show us a big
inefficient home with whacked out geometry in an
extreme climate with wicked temperature
swings and
a builder who doesn't want to do the system and we'll show you an expensive radiant system.
That's it - that's as complicated as the
economies get...price is always proportional to
system complexity, building performance, climate
and builder flexibility and confidence (which comes with skill which
comes from practice). Give
the experienced designer and skilled contractor a high performance
enclosure (deals with the climate) with some normallacy in design
(simple geometries) and
we'll show you a low cost affordable radiant
based HVAC system.
The exception is when over
zealous designers use peoples homes as a blank
canvas to express their mechanical artistry ...
in this case - owners buy a 'one of a kind'
system for the 'one of a kind' price...talk
with us at the forum on how to prevent this
from happening to you.
Lastly, the term
'expensive' is a relative term - expensive to
one is affordable to another. Consider millions of
people stand in line at Starbucks day after day
to pay $5.00 for a boutique cup of coffee...others spend
thousands of dollars each year on their
pets...and some spend more on outdoor decks,
patio's and furniture than on their own HVAC
systems...expensive shmensive...it's all about
ones priorities.
Suggested reading:
Are you paying too much for downgrades? and
Do-it-yourself HVAC. |
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radiant..."is not
effective in energy efficient homes with really
small heating loads because even a small amount
floor heating can cause overheating due to the
thermal mass effect."
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We often see this
statement associated with "popular science"
experiments involving
conventional construction
practices rather than on low load energy
efficient projects...
never the less - using
proper controls and systems typical of well designed
projects mitigates overheating in all types of
buildings in all types of climates.
Discussion:
overheating in all buildings occurs with
various combinations of
enclosure
performance, building mass,
solar control, control over
internal loads and control over the heating
systems (and all types not just radiant). Poor control over one or
more of these elements can prevent
the occupants from shedding their internal body
heat at a rate fast enough to feel comfortable.
Your options: control the building
by site orientation and choosing the proper combination and location
of
windows,
insulation and mass; control the solar gain
and
internal gains; control the heating system or
preferably - all of
the above. Since the finger is pointed at
radiant heating lets discuss the radiant by
first talking about controls.
In high performance
single zone homes (less than 10 Btu/hr/sf) with proper
exterior shading
and glazing with less than 20% window to
wall ratios, there is little demonstrated
benefit for having sophisticated radiant heating
controls. A simple non electric thermostatic
valve and analogue control on the heater or even
a simple pulse width modulated (PWM) thermostats
controlling the heat source is a suitable and
effective solution. In conventional
housing with multiple zones and dynamic loads it
is useful to
modulate the temperature of the system fluid
with in-space room feedback. Modulating the fluid temperature with what is
known as weather compensators or indoor/outdoor
controllers or reset controls is a tried and
true technology having been in existence for
decades so this is not a "new" solution nor is
it "high tech" nor are they "expensive"...put it
this way,,,,weather compensators are like the
cruise control on your car...they regulate your
speed, control your fuel consumption and no
proper car would be without one...likewise with
radiant systems in some applications. Weekend engineers' who experiment
without doing the research or by
those who don't
want to invest the money in controls and then
blame the system for over and under heating tend
to be the same folks
who spend the rest of their life on the
internet telling everyone about how bad radiant
is. When you read this stuff on line what you
need to read is, "I'm a weekend engineer and
didn't do a proper job of researching building
science nor paying
for proper controls".
Secondly,...if you
don't want to mess with solar gains then (wait
for it) don't give the solar energy a place to
store itself... this is not that
complicated...keep the short and long wave
energy off and out of the building with external
shading and reduced glazing areas (less than
20% window to wall ratio's) with an
appropriate solar shading coefficient and use
readily available off the shelf low mass
flooring.
Conclusion:
100% of all over heating and under heating
complaints in homes heated exclusively with
furnaces did not have radiant floor heating to
blame. |
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"The heated pipes
radiate energy into the slab which then heats
the air" or" Radiant heat from the Pex hot
water tubes in the concrete slab is sent out in
a 360 degree pattern." or "This fluid picks
up radiant heat coming from the ground." |
Embedded or buried pipes or
cables use conduction (not radiation) to heat the
mass...energy in the form of electromagnetic
waves are radiated (emitted) from or absorbed by
surfaces. There is no temperature in the
electromagnetic waves - only energy. In order for these electromagnetic
energy waves to be converted to heat (measured
by temperature) they must travel
through a transparent space until
they hit an opaque surface of a cooler temperature where
they are absorbed. The absorption of the energy
increase the molecular action in the surface
which raises the temperature of the surface and
through conduction heats the underlying mass. |
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"to prevent
overheating with very small loads, the slab has
to be no more than a few degrees above room
temperature which means the floor won't be warm
to the touch in fact it may feel cool to the
feet." |
You have to
differentiate between comfort and "warm to
touch" or "cool to touch"...again decades ago, research discovered
that people wearing normal foot wear prefer floor temperatures in and
around 75 deg. F. In fact ASHRAE Standard 55 and
ISO Standard 7730 both state for comfort, floors
should be regulated between 66 deg F for cooling
and 84 deg F for heating with 75 deg F being the
optimum temperature. For those in bare feet or
feet with light socks the limitations of the
floor are also a function of the flooring
itself. If 74 deg. F is necessary for comfort
than this is a good thing. For further details
see this link on
floor temperatures and see this
discussion on having
warm floors in high performance homes. |
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with..."solar gain
it may be possible with floor heating to be
delivering excess heat causing overheating." |
This is a twist on
what we have already addressed but lets explore
it further.
Have you ever placed
an ordinary thermometer in the sunlight inside
your home on a summer or winter day? What does
it read and what does this tell you?
Here's one example:
south facing double pane glazing, February 25th,
2011, Calgary, Ab., Canada - outdoor temperature
-8 deg F (-22 deg C), floor temp = 88.5 deg F
(31.4 deg C) WITHOUT floor
heating.
Sans any
discussion on window performances, it should
tell you even without radiant floor heating the
floors will get warm - so long as the floors see
the sunshine they will warm up due primarily to the short
wave radiation travelling through the
windows. Throw in the long wave energy emitted from
interior surfaces warmed by the short wave
energy and you have a room heated with radiant
energy without having embedded heating pipes.
Discussion: in a
properly controlled high performance home under
maximum load (no solar gain...middle of the
night...wind howling...nasty cold), the floor
temperature would be operated at a few degrees
above a room temperature of 72 deg F., so lets say
the floor is between 74
deg F and 76 deg F and if designed correctly
maybe an average 80 deg F. fluid
temperature...cooler than
core body temperature
and cooler than
skin temperature but still
comfortable ...recall you have
your own internal
heat source that generates at rest a nominal
360 Btu/hr
- so in fact under normal conditions - you need
to get rid of heat to stay comfortable...and by
the way feet are a great place to shed heat due
to the blood flow and conductive transfer with
the floor...anyways the million dollar question
is, will you have that ooh ahh sensation
of a really warm floor? No but it will be warmer
than the floor in the same space heated with a
furnace.
Anyways...morning
comes along and as soon as the sun hits the
74 deg F to 76 deg F floor, it starts raise the floor temperature
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but only those surface areas that "see" (absorb)
the shortwave morning sun radiation - as such the room
operative temperature of 72 deg
F begins to rise as well...so what happens next? Well the thermostats stops
the flow of tepid water to the floor and after some period of time the
floor surface is at or
warmer than the fluid in the floor. Since hot
travels to cold or in this case warmth to coolth
(yes it's a real word) ...the floor warming
system becomes a solar absorber and can cool the
floor by sending the solar gain ( a temperature
rise in the fluid) to a colder part of the
house...or you could turn the system off
completely and let
the sun take over the comfort in your space. All
you have to do is remember warmth travels to
coolth and if the sun makes the floor warmer
than the fluid in the pipes...the floor system
is not contributing to the overheating.
If you
want to shed solar heat gain in winter...open up
the windows...it didn't cost you anything to get
it in the first place so it won't cost you to
lose it...the greenhouse people figured this out
centuries ago...if you don't want to manually manage
it...reduce your window area, reduce the windows
solar heat gain coefficient, use exterior
shading and low mass floors...but don't blame the radiant floor
...unless of course you didn't control
the incoming solar heat in which case it's still not
the fault of the floor.
Conclusion:
100% of all over heating and under heating
complaints in homes heated exclusively with
furnaces did not have radiant floor heating to
blame. |
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"...radiant heating
systems transforms cold floors and furniture
into heat-omitting objects." |
Heat is not
"omitted" from warm objects it is "emitted"
provided it has some place to be absorbed,
reflected or transmitted. There is no radiant
transfer between two bodies of the same
temperature. |
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"...the heat travels
slowly upwards from the floor to the ceiling." |
Radiant energy does
not 'travel slowly' it travels at the 'speed of
light'. The energy is converted to heat when it
hits a solid object of a cooler temperature. |
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"The best place for
radiant heating is on the floor because heat
rises." or
"Heat rises so the whole room from floor to
ceiling will heat up..." or "In-floor puts
the heat where you are and not on the ceiling." |
Heat doesn't
rise...hot air does...radiant energy travels
from hot to cold and in all directions...and
heats the entire room not just the first 6
feet...if you
don't get this basic principle try standing
under a heat lamp...heat rising? No...if heat
rose we would have to stand on top of the sun
and put heat lamps on the floor...so just exactly where is the top of
the sun? Radiant heating can be done from any
surface, floor, ceilings and walls. |
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"The best floor
covering is tile or concrete because of its
heat-conducting qualities. Wood floors or thick
carpeting are insulators..." |
The effectiveness of
a surface as a radiator has nothing to do with
its insulative qualities but rather with its
emissivity. 99.99% of typical floor coverings
have very high emissivity's ergo they all make
good radiators. The insulating qualities affect
only the
fluid temperatures and pipe spacing. |
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"...radiant heat can crack or
otherwise damage fine wood flooring.", or
"Radiant heat will cause solid hardwood flooring
to dry out too much and cause it to crack and
shrink apart." |
Beans first law of
radiant heated hardwood: 100% of all hardwood
flooring complaints in buildings heated
exclusively with forced air did not have radiant
floor heating to blame. The primary cause of
dimensional changes in wood is moisture not
heat. If this messes with your head, ask a
furniture craftsman schooled in the ways from
the old country. See below for the difference between heat
and temperature. |
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"...a flexible
plastic tubing called "PEX" -- a polyurethane.." |
PEX is actually
PE-X, an acronym for
cross (X) linked
polyethylene (PE). There are different types of
PE-X designated by a letter which is an
indicator of the method used to cross link the
molecules, for example, PE-Xa, PE-Xb etc... |
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"Comfort, in fact,
is the No. 1 advantage (with radiant floor
heating) with its warm-feet, cool-head
environment." |
There is no single
ideal
floor surface temperature
for everyone and in all applications - as it depends on
the heat loss of the room, the foot wear and the
conductivity of the flooring and the occupants
subjective view of comfort.
Generally speaking,
when wearing normal footwear -
floor surface temperatures are optimal around 75
deg F to 77
deg F...however keep in mind - air temperatures are not the
same as surface temperatures - when we talk air
- the smaller the
air temperature difference
between the ankles and head the more comfortable
people will be (favoring warm below to cool
above)...See our pages on skin and
comfort and temperature stratification. |
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"A wet system ..." |
Refers to
poured
floors like cement or gypsum based topping
systems - no one we know wants to live with a
wet system....we suggest people use poured floor system instead of
wet. |
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"A dry system..." |
Refers to
sub floor
systems installed under, in or on top of the sub
floor, - no one we know wants to live with a dry
system....we suggest people use subfloor system instead of dry. |
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"Heat and
temperature are essentially the same thing..." |
No they are not -
heat is a form of energy - temperature is not. Substances
can have the same temperature but hold different
amounts of heat. Temperature is an indicator of
the speed of the molecules. You can apply more
heat to speed up the molecules i.e. raise the
temperature of the substance.
This is also a good
place to point out that in reality there is no
such thing as 'radiant heat'. I know it's used
all the time but in reality, radiant is an
electromagnetic energy wave without heat...the
heat comes from the stimulation of molecules in
a substance receiving the radiant energy. |
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"The Romans invented
radiant floor heating..." |
Inhabitants of Asia
(Korea and China) were the first by several
thousands of years. Per building, Korea has the
most radiant heating anywhere in the world.
Northern Europe, Germany, Sweden, Denmark etc...
come in second. |
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"...the thicker the
slab, the more it will heat up and radiate..." |
Slab thickness has
nothing to do with how well a concrete surface
will radiate - this is a function of its
emissivity. A thicker slab (yes) will hold
more energy in the form heat but if the surface
temperature of the slab is the same as all the
surface temperatures in the room there will be
no radiant transfer regardless of how thick the
slab is or how much energy it holds. |
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"So, a lot of people
will install a foil double-poly reflective
insulation. They use a barrier insulation under
the slab and help keep the radiant heat moving
up, not down." or "the portion of
radiant heat being lost into the ground below."
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There is no radiant
heat transfer from the slab to the ground its
conductive ergo there is no need for a
reflective barrier. See our pages on reflective
barriers and under slab insulation. |
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The piping can be
wrought iron, steel, copper or plastic,
including polybutylene and polyethylene. The
steel and wrought iron are typically only used
for floors. They are too heavy for walls and
ceilings. |
Steel, iron, copper...these haven't been used in radiant systems for a
long time and polybutylene hasn't been readily
available in North America for well over a
decade. |
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"Warm air rises and
much is lost, making forced air heating less
energy efficient. Radiant heating works by
transferring heat to objects, so when placed
beneath wood flooring it heats the floor. Since
less heat is lost through the air, radiant
heating is more energy efficient than forced air
heating systems." |
All things being
equal, radiant is more
effective at conditioning
people and spaces but it is not necessarily more
efficient. Efficiency is a complex discussion
because it involves other external systems and a
few other terms such a
exergy and
efficacy-
something most people are not familiar
with...also there is an inverse relationship
between building performance and the need for
mechanical efficiency. The undeniable and
undisputable fact is - is radiant is an enabler.
It enables higher combustion and compression
efficiency. But a lousy building with high
efficiency boilers and heat pumps can still lose
more heat than a good building with mid
efficiency systems...ergo any statement about
radiant being more efficient should be
questioned for clarity - in most heating case it is
difficult to scientifically support the
statement unless there are mitigating
circumstances. However, there can be significant
electrical power conservation with radiant
cooling systems. See below for efficiency claims
and see this overview of
energy, exergy, efficiency, entropy and efficacy
or what we call the E5 factors. |
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"Electric radiant
floor heating is widely considered to be the
most energy efficient heating process currently
available." |
Electricity
generated by combustion processes can have as
much as 70% losses between the point of
generation and the home...i.e. of the 100 units
of energy to produce electricity you get between
20 and 30 units at the plug -
far from being the most energy
efficient process. Hydro, geo or wind
generated power - now that's a
different story. See below for more efficiency
claims. |
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"brand x insulation
forces the heat from the radiant heat system up
to the floor's surface." or, "brand x
insulations help to retain the heat generated by
the radiant heating system blocking
it from escaping into the ground." or "Reflects
cold back into the ground." |
Under slab insulation does not
force heat up to the floor surface nor block it
from going down nor does it reflect cold nor is
the heat within a concrete slab being transferred by
radiation...insulation is resistance...it slows
or impedes the flow of energy in the form of heat
travelling from hot to cold via conduction...radiation
only comes to play at the uppermost surface of the floor.
Learn more about reflective insulation scams. |
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"...savings
associated with the use of radiant floor heating
range from 10% - 40% on utility bills." or "it
saves 30 percent in energy costs", or "Radiant
heat can save up to 50% in total heating cost "
or " can save up to 15% on heating bills ..." or
"...saves 20 to 40 % on monthly heating ..." or
"you can save 10-30 percent on your monthly
heating bills" or "can save
40% off your heating bill" or " can save
consumers as much as 50% in energy usage"
or " radiant floor heating systems that should
be up to 80 percent more energy efficient." or
"They are typically 40 percent more efficient
"...and this next one is our favorite claim of
all time..."All radiant heat systems are 100
percent efficient at any capacity." |
There is so much
anecdotal claims floating around you can pretty
much find whatever you want for savings
depending on what source you want to
believe...the reality is - there is no
formal independent scientific residential
research that we are aware of that supports any
of these claims...so here again are the
facts...radiant is an enabler...and by that we
mean that radiant enables condensing boilers,
chillers or heat pumps to operate at their
maximum efficiency - that's it. If you have a
lousy house nothing is going to save you from
high energy bills but what you will get is
maximum performance from your radiant system
while the building loses lots of heat. If you
want to reduce your heating bills first build a
high performance building and then get the
maximum efficiency from your heating system by
using low temperature radiant heating. (caveat...in cooling - scientific
research and practical applications have
demonstrated significant electrical power
conservation when
radiant cooling is used with
dedicated outdoor
air systems). |
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"...anything that
can insulate the floor also reduces or slows the
heat entering the space from the floor system.
This in turn increases fuel consumption." |
This is only
partially true. Fuel consumption is a function
of many things including building performance,
boiler over and under sizing, types of controls,
tube spacing and fluid temperatures. Floor
coverings and their corresponding R-value are
compensated for by tube spacing which influences
fluid temperatures (in heating, more tube = lower
temperature = better efficiency, in cooling more
tube = higher temperatures = better efficiency).
A correctly
designed carpeted floor
can operate at the same effectiveness and
efficiency as a poorly designed wood or tiled floor. |
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"However, in humid
climates, problems with over-cooling the floor
could lead to wet slippery surfaces and fungus
growth." |
There it is again,
a failure to communicate the differences between latent and
sensible heat and controlling absolute moisture and dew
points...see our pages on
radiant cooling. |
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"The radiant floor
heating will save the most energy." or "it saves
energy"... |
You can't save what
you have not used or as pointed out by
the International Energy Association, "This
claim (saves energy)...conflicts with the first law of
thermodynamics stating that the total amount of
energy is conserved even though forms of energy
may change from one to another." In layman's
term you can't create nor destroy energy ergo it
cannot be saved not even by radiant floor
heating systems. For a thorough study read about
"exergy,
entropy, energy and conservation ." |
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"It can lower the
allergens in your home by eighty percent!"
or "Radiant heating will also keep your home
free of air-contaminants, bacteria and dust."
or "There is no hot air being blown around as
with traditional systems, so no dusty sneezes." |
While there are some
environmental benefits to using radiant, lowering allergens by
80% or keeping your home, "free of
air-contaminants, bacteria and dust" are not ones that we can find supported by
research. We love to know where
these came from...to get the facts read our
featured article on the
health effects of low
temperature radiant heating systems. |
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"radiant heating is
only for new construction." or "retrofitting
radiant is too difficult..." or " you have to
rip up floors to have radiant heating." |
One of the lowest
cost, easiest and most effective ways of
retrofitting
radiant heat is to use the walls.
If that messes with your head ask yourself why
your cat or dog finds sleeping in front of a
window (a wall you can see through) so comfortable...hmmm
it might just be the radiant heat...who knew? Integrating radiant into
wainscoting is just one creative way of adding
the beauty of woodwork and the comfort of
radiant. See our pages on retrofitting radiant
into existing buildings. |
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"Floor heating comes
in three varieties: electric, hydraulic
(liquid), and air-based systems." |
Hydraulic? Try
hydronic...semantics yes but this page is about
how myths get started and spread...people read
hydraulic from an expert and they think brake
fluid. Is "hydronic" any better - no...but it's
the correct term. |
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"glowing floor
heating systems." |
Glowing? Lets put
this into perspective, the surface temperatures
of a wood stove is over 400 degrees F with
interior temperatures over 1,000 degrees F and
still these temperatures are too low to
glow...(pun intended)...floor heating operates
below 90 deg F surface temperatures...far below glowing
temperatures. We get what the writer is
trying to do - it's actually nice to think of
warm floors as glowing - but if the floor were
glowing - your house would be on fire. |
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Heating the entire
slab may result in a condition known as "hot
foot". Your feet and ankles are not accustomed
to standing on a warm surface. |
Another twist on the
above "glowing floor heating system"...once
again the control of floor heating temperatures
are specified in ASHRAE Standard 55 - Thermal
Environmental Conditions for Human Occupancy.
There is no "glowing floor" or "hot foot" unless
the system has been designed and installed by
amateurs. See this article on
do it yourself HVAC. |
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"Among the
advantages of (radiant) are the absence of any
air flow from the outdoors that has to be
heated, as is the case with many forced air
systems." |
We're not sure if the writer was
referring to exfiltration/infiltration (leakage) or
ventilation (to replace exhaust air from fans)
regardless both are heating loads which are
independent of the type of comfort system. See
dedicated outdoor
air systems. |
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"...uses a lower
thermostat setting as compared to forced air
system thereby lowering your energy bills." |
All things being
equal, it is possible in standard construction,
to theoretically achieve comfort levels with lower thermostats
settings in spaces conditioned with radiant,
however there is a
report by CHMC stating that even though
people could use a lower setting few occupants
actually do. In high performance homes (<10
Btu/hr/sf) this argument becomes a moot point as
the building envelope solves the energy use and
minimizes the cold surface effect on the
operative temperature. |
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"radiant
heating...is costly to install, and maintaining
the system can be difficult." |
The cost and
maintenance of any mechanical system is
inversely related to the complexity and
efficiency of the architecture. A high
performance home built to R2000 (Canada) or
Passivhaus (German) standards have very simple
and affordable systems. |
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"..if you set your
thermostat to about 68 degrees, the room will
likely heat up to about 72 degrees. This is
because the heat is sustained through the mass,
so the higher the surface is heated, the lower
you need to keep the boiler temperature." |
Surface and boiler temperatures
are set from the tube spacing, floor
conductivity and heat loss. A high
performance home with conductive floors and
tight tube spacing can operate at very low
surface and boiler temperatures resulting in very high combustion
efficiencies. |
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"Hydronic radiant
floor heating systems use boiling water in the
pipes to generate heat..." |
Water is not boiled
in a hydronic system. A high performance home
with conductive floors with tight tube spacing
the temperature of the water is similar to the
core
temperatures found in your own body, i.e. 85 deg
F to 100 deg F. |
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Hydronic radiant
floor heating systems are also environmentally
friendly as they have an option of recycling
your used water. In fact, it is also a part of
purifying your water where the water is brought
to a boil. |
That statement is by
far the most bizarre statement we have come
across....Fact: hydronic radiant
floor heating systems do not recycle your used
water and are not part of purifying water for
domestic use. Read here about using
domestic water heaters for space heating. |
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"The heat energy
that is created by warm water, flows through
pipes..." |
Heat 'is' energy and
its not created by warm water flow - energy in
the form of heat is transferred into the water
through the heat exchanger of the boiler or heat
pump. |
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more to come...if
you want us to look at a questionable statement
let us know at the
forum. |